The 4 Most Common Questions About the CPP (Canada Pension Plan)
In the past, some of my most popular articles have been ones I have written about Canada Pension Plan (CPP). In this article, I would like to tackle the four most common questions I get surrounding CPP
1. How much will I get from Canada Pension Plan?
Less than you might think. The maximum CPP amount for 2010 is $934.17 per month starting at age 65. That being said, most people do not qualify for the maximum CPP so it is best that you call Service Canada at 1-800-277-9914 and ask for your Canada Pension Plan statement of contributions.
It’s not easy to qualify for the maximum CPP because you have to contribute full rates for 40 years between the age of 18 and 65. Add in the trend that more and more people are retiring before the age of 65 and taking CPP early, you are seeing more an more people get less than the maximum amount. To learn more about his you can read my recent article, How much will you get from Canada Pension Plan in Retirement?
2. Should I take CPP early?
Canada Pension Plan is normally taken at age 65. That being said, you can take CPP as early as age 60 and as late as age 70. To evaluate this lets introduce you to twins, Janet and Beth. Let’s assume they both qualify for the same CPP of $900 per month at age 65. Let’s further assume, Beth decides to take CPP now at age 60 at a reduced amount while Janet decides she wants to wait till 65 because she will get more income by deferring the income for 5 years.
Under Canada Pension Plan benefits, Beth can take CPP at age 60 based on a reduction factor of 0.5% for each month prior to her 65th birthday. Thus Beth’s CPP will be reduced by 30% (0.5% x 60 months) for a monthly income of $630 starting on her 60th birthday.
Let’s fast forward 5 years. Now, Beth and Janet are both 65. Over the last 5 years, Beth has collected $630 per month totalling $37,800. In other words, Beth has made $37,800 before Janet has collected a single CPP cheque. That being said, Janet is now going to get $900 per month for CPP or $270 per month more than Beth’s $630. The question is how many months does Janet need to collect more pension than Beth to make up the $37,800 Beth is ahead? It will take Janet 140 months to make up the $37,800 at $270 per month. In other words, before age 77, Beth is ahead of Janet and after age 77, Janet is ahead of Beth.
From a lifestyle perspective, it can be argued that Beth is more likely to enjoy the cashflow from age 60 to 77 a lot more than Janet will enjoy the extra cashflow after the age of 77.
This example is very simplistic. It does not take into account taxes, investment returns or indexing of benefits. Regardless, taking Canada Pension Plan early is simply about getting more money sooner. Waiting just means you have to live longer to make up the lost income.
There is new proposed legislation to change the rules on getting CPP early. The proposal is still under discussion.
3. Can I split Canada Pension Plan?
Canada Pension Plan allows spouses to share their CPP with each other. The premise behind this is you can share your CPP with a spouse but they have to share their CPP back with you.
Let’s go back and look at Beth who is married to Larry. Beth took her Canada Pension Plan early and gets the $630 per month. Her total income is quite low and she only pays tax at the 25% marginal tax rate. Larry is 5 years older and makes $850 per month in CPP. Larry also has a pension so his total income is much higher than Beth. He is in the 32% Marginal Tax bracket.
The way Canada Pension Plan sharing works is they would give each other half of their CPP. The easiest way to grasp this is to add up both amounts ($850 + $630) and divide by 2. As a result of the sharing, Larry’s CPP amount will drop from $850 per month to $740 per month. Janet’s income will increase from $630 per month to $740 per month. The outcome is $110 per month of income will move from being taxed at 32% to being taxed only at 25%.
Remember that to qualify for Canada Pension Plan sharing, both spouses must be eligible to collect CPP, which means they both have to be over the age of 60.
The spouses must apply to split Canada Pension Plan. Once the amount is split, the spouses can apply to unsplit. In the case where one of the spouses passes away, the surviving spouse’s CPP goes back to their original amount. For example, if Beth passed away, Larry’s CPP would go from $740 per month back to his original $850 per month and then he would earn a survivors CPP benefit. If Larry passed away, Beth’s CPP would go from $740 per month back to $630 per month but then should would earn a survivors benefit off of Larry’s CPP.
The key to determining if Canada Pension Plan sharing is feasible is to look at whether the higher CPP earner is in a higher marginal tax rate than the lower CPP earner.
4. Is CPP clawed back depending on how much I make?
The short answer is no. There is no income or means test on your Canada Pension Plan retirement benefit. There is a clawback or recovery system on Old Age Security but not on Canada Pension Plan.
Lots to know about Canada Pension Plan
While those are the top Canada Pension Plan questions, there’s a lot more you’ll want to know. Rather than re-invent the wheel, I thought I would post some of my favorite articles on CPP.
How much will you get from Canada Pension Plan in retirement?
In this article I talk about how to calculate your retirement benefit and why most Canadians should not count on the maximum amount in retirement.
CPP Child Rearing Drop Out Provision
In this article I talk about how parents who took time off to raise children can get more from their Canada Pension Plan.
Will Canada Pension Plan be there when you retire?
I continue to be amazed at how many Canadians still think CPP will not be there when they retire. In this article, I provide some facts about how to evaluate controversial topic.
Sooner or Later? When to start CPP
Tax expert Jamie Golumbek discusses the proposed changes from a tax perspective.
CPP Investment Board
This site is a great resource on CPP and how it is being managed. The CCP investment board is in charge of managing the $130 billion dollar fund.
RRSP vs CPP
Micheal James on Money provides a hypothetical comparison between RRSP and CPP. Unfortunately we can’t opt out of CPP.
Ask the readers: Increase in Canada Pension Plan?
Another popular personal finance blog Million Dollar Journey talks about increases to the contribution rates. There’s lots of interesting responses from readers.
Canada Pension Plan Disability Benefit
This is a topic I do not know much about so I enjoyed reading this article.